tuplets (again)

[🎶WinterWyvern]

I'm not exactly back, but i sometimes get bored enough to do some 3ml. So does anyone know what values to assign these kind of triplets. I havent come across them before and experimentation with the values have failed. I thought triplets were 3 notes but in this case its not.

[🎶Atropos]

When they are 3 notes in one compass, its 3.

When they are 6 notes in one compass, its 6.

When they are 12 notes in one compass, its 12.

Look below for the answer.

 

Edited February 9, 2017 by Lachesis

[🎶WinterWyvern]

okay, but theres a slight problem. none of those 3 lines is equal to a bar in 4-4 time (4 beats)

[🎶Atropos]

are u sure?

Edited May 24, 2016 by Lachesis

[🎶WinterWyvern]

yes, if u type the first line in 3ml, it will almost be a bar and a half

[🎶WinterWyvern]

bump: since i'm back i would like to have a go at this song again. However my question still stands. Now since theres more people in the forum, does anyone know how to write those triplets in midi format

[🎶Atropos]

 

EDIT: Below me its the correct answer, my numbers were off.

Edited February 9, 2017 by Lachesis

[🎶Argysionnach]

On 5/22/2016 at 11:33 PM, WinterWyvern said:

I'm not exactly back, but i sometimes get bored enough to do some 3ml. So does anyone know what values to assign these kind of triplets. I havent come across them before and experimentation with the values have failed. I thought triplets were 3 notes but in this case its not.

The note measures per 4 beats would be 8 8 8 12 24 8 8 12 24 12 24 | 8 8 8 8 8 8 12 24 12 24 | 8 8 8 8 8 8 12 24 12 24

A triplet fitting in a half note would be 6th notes, a triplet fitting in a quarter note would be divided up into 12ths, a triplet in an eighth note would be 24th notes, and so on.  In this instance, it's triplets fitting into an eighth note, but with a double-length note taking the place of two of the sub-beats.  Lachesis was close, but was up a triplet size.

Sorry I didn't see this last May lol.

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Here's the sample mml for what you posted, as an example

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MML@<l8aaaa12a24aaa12a24a12a24f+f+f+f+f+f+f+12f+24f+12f+24>c+c+c+c+c+c+l12c+c+24c+c+24,>l8aaaa12a24aaa12a24a12a24f+f+f+f+f+f+f+12f+24f+12f+24>c+c+c+c+c+c+l12c+c+24c+c+24,l8aaaa12a24aaa12a24a12a24f+f+f+f+f+f+f+12f+24f+12f+24>c+c+c+c+c+c+l12c+c+24c+c+24;

 

Edited February 9, 2017 by Argysionnach
Added in example mml

[🎶WinterWyvern]

Thanks Lachesis and Argysionnach for helping with my query, it would seem that Argy nailed it for me  . Still, I appreciate the effort you put into trying to explain it to me Lachesis!

[🎶Atropos]

My bad, I should totally have done it on the 3MLE itself, I would had realized the numbers were off.

 

....>//> At least the idea was the good one!

 

P.D. Sorry for messing up so badly.

[🎶WinterWyvern]

its okay, its the thought that counts!

[🎶Argysionnach]

An easy way to remember in the future is that the division of the note has to be smaller than the note it fits in   Made a quick cheatsheet for future reference, if you guys want it (though it only applies to triplets, not quintuplets or septuplets [I've run into those before, that's when you have to deal with 28th and 56th notes.  Bluhhhh])

 

Edited February 9, 2017 by Argysionnach

[🎶WinterWyvern]

that part is fairly simple, its just that triplets kinda mess me up, I've also never encountered triplets not in '3's and different note values in the triplets also make it more difficult to work with

[🎶Argysionnach]

3 minutes ago, WinterWyvern said:

that part is fairly simple, its just that triplets kinda mess me up, I've also never encountered triplets not in '3's and different note values in the triplets also make it more difficult to work with

Again, if the triplets are an issue, you can just look at that chart.  i.e. if you see what looks like an eighth note, and it's part of a triplet, it's a 12th note.  If it looks like a quarter note, but it's part of a triplet, it's a sixth note.  Etc. etc. etc.

Also, consider yourself lucky :'D

(also also, I guess saying N/A for a whole-note in a triplet isn't completely true.  It'd be a 2/3rd of a measure in duration -- you'd have to use a 3&3 to show it though, since fractions don't work in mml :D)

Edited February 9, 2017 by Argysionnach

[🎶WinterWyvern]

ahh, i didnt read the last row fully, i glanced at it and dismissed it as mml equivalent (completely missed the word triplet). I'll include that in my guide later in the future, thanks!